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Scaling Laws of Synthetic Data for Language Models (arxiv.org)
2 points by PaulHoule on Apr 15, 2025 | hide | past | pdf | discuss on HN

In plain words: A tool pulls key ideas out of web documents and recombines them into new training text, replacing shrinking real data. Unlike other ways of making fake training text, it kept improving predictably with more data, though gains flattened near 300 billion tokens.

Abstract

Large language models (LLMs) achieve strong performance across diverse tasks, largely driven by high-quality web data used in pre-training. However, recent studies indicate this data source is rapidly depleting. Synthetic data emerges as a promising alternative, but it remains unclear whether synthetic datasets exhibit predictable scalability comparable to raw pre-training data. In this work, we systematically investigate the scaling laws of synthetic data by introducing SynthLLM, a scalable framework that transforms pre-training corpora into diverse, high-quality synthetic datasets. Our approach achieves this by automatically extracting and recombining high-level concepts across multiple documents using a graph algorithm. Key findings from our extensive mathematical experiments on SynthLLM include: (1) SynthLLM generates synthetic data that reliably adheres to the rectified scaling law across various model sizes; (2) Performance improvements plateau near 300B tokens; and (3) Larger models approach optimal performance with fewer training tokens. For instance, an 8B model peaks at 1T tokens, while a 3B model requires 4T. Moreover, comparisons with existing synthetic data generation and augmentation methods demonstrate that SynthLLM achieves superior performance and scalability. Our findings highlight synthetic data as a scalable and reliable alternative to organic pre-training corpora, offering a viable path toward continued improvement in model performance.

Zeyu Qin, Qingxiu Dong, Xingxing Zhang, Li Dong, Xiaolong Huang, Ziyi Yang, Mahmoud Khademi, Dongdong Zhang, Hany Hassan Awadalla, Yi R. Fung, Weizhu Chen, Minhao Cheng, et al.
arXiv:2503.19551 · cs.CL, cs.AI · submitted Mar 25, 2025 · updated Oct 5, 2025
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