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LNS-Madam: Low-Precision Training in Log Using Multiplicative Weight Update (arxiv.org)
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In plain words: Trains neural nets using only 8-bit logarithmic numbers, with a weight update that multiplies instead of adding, so no full-precision copy is kept. It matched full-precision accuracy on vision and language tasks while using over 90% less energy than 32-bit training.

Abstract · LNS-Madam: Low-Precision Training in Logarithmic Number System using Multiplicative Weight Update

Representing deep neural networks (DNNs) in low-precision is a promising approach to enable efficient acceleration and memory reduction. Previous methods that train DNNs in low-precision typically keep a copy of weights in high-precision during the weight updates. Directly training with low-precision weights leads to accuracy degradation due to complex interactions between the low-precision number systems and the learning algorithms. To address this issue, we develop a co-designed low-precision training framework, termed LNS-Madam, in which we jointly design a logarithmic number system (LNS) and a multiplicative weight update algorithm (Madam). We prove that LNS-Madam results in low quantization error during weight updates, leading to stable performance even if the precision is limited. We further propose a hardware design of LNS-Madam that resolves practical challenges in implementing an efficient datapath for LNS computations. Our implementation effectively reduces energy overhead incurred by LNS-to-integer conversion and partial sum accumulation. Experimental results show that LNS-Madam achieves comparable accuracy to full-precision counterparts with only 8 bits on popular computer vision and natural language tasks. Compared to FP32 and FP8, LNS-Madam reduces the energy consumption by over 90% and 55%, respectively.

Jiawei Zhao, Steve Dai, Rangharajan Venkatesan, Brian Zimmer, Mustafa Ali, Ming-Yu Liu, Brucek Khailany, Bill Dally, Anima Anandkumar
arXiv:2106.13914 · cs.LG, cs.AR · submitted Jun 26, 2021 · updated Aug 23, 2022
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The new Deepseek v3.1 is trained using the UE8M0 FP8 scale data format. Compared to FP32 and FP8, LNS-Madam reduces the energy consumption by over 90% and 55%, respectively.